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The International Cultic Studies Association says "the Masons, the Jesuits, Opus Dei and the Military do NOT qualify as "CULTS"

The President of The International Cultic Studies Association just happens to be a Jesuit Schooled, Professor of Law at a Jesuit University.

(The point of my doing this web page is to show the hypocrisy in those who DECIDE who and what a "cult" is.)

(The following was taken from the above web site urls):

"Aren't the Jesuits or other monastic religious orders a cult?


While cults, military organizations, and legitimate spiritual groups share some superficials, they are fundamentally different. They share an indoctrination process, strict codes of behavior and ethics, uniform dress, restricted diets and exercise regimens. (-cont below-)

(From a Jesuit church in Prague)

Where they differ most is deception. Anyone signing up for boot camp has no doubt in his or her mind that he will be going through a severe mental, emotional, and physical trial meant to improve their physique and sharpen their mind. There are no secrets. Whether a curious person attends an introductory seminar for Transcendental Meditation, the Church of Scientology, the Moonists, or smaller cults, the speaker will conveniently forget to mention that new members will undergo what the California Supreme Court has called "brainwashing, thought reform, or mind control," may end up "donating" hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of their lives to the cult.

It should be pointed out also that legitimate organizations like the Marines and Jesuits care for their members with health care, food, lodging, clothing -- and that when members leave they will have been trained in a trade, received an advanced degree, or received other value."

(This isn't a Cult Leader. So "THEY" Say...)

Former Pres. of Mexico V. Fox

K of C Jeb Bush

"Aren't the Marines a Cult by Your Definition?


(watch my video called "I was in a Cult")

--adapted from Cults in Our Midst: The Hidden Menace in Our Everyday Lives, by Margaret Singer and Janja Lalich, Jossey-Bass, 1995.

"I have had to point out why the United States Marine Corps is not a cult so many times that I carry a list to lectures and court appearances. It cites 19 ways in which the practices of the Marine Corps differ from those found in most modern cults.... "

"Cults clearly differ from such purely authoritarian groups as the military, some types of sects and communes, and centuries- old Roman Catholic and Greek and Russian Orthodox Orders. These groups, though rigid and controlling, lack a double agenda and are not manipulative or leader-centered. The differences become apparent when we examine the intensity and pervasiveness with which mind-manipulating techniques and deceptions are or are not applied. Jesuit seminaries may isolate the seminarian from the rest of the world for periods of time, but the candidate is not deliberately deceived about the obligations and burdens of the priesthood. In fact, he is warned in advance about what is expected, and what he can and cannot do.... "

"Mainstream religious organizations do not concentrate their search on the lonely and the vulnerable.... "

"Nor do mainstream religions focus recruitment on wealthy believers who are seen as pots of gold for the church, as is the case with those cults who target rich individuals.... "

"Military training and legitimate executive training programs may use the dictates of authority as well as peer pressure to encourage the adoption of new patterns of thought and behavior. They do not seek, however, to accelerate the process by prolonged or intense psychological depletion or by stirring up feelings of dread, guilt, and sinfulness.... "

"And what is wrong with cults is not just that cults are secret societies. In our culture, there are openly recognized, social secret societies, such as the Masons, in which new members know up front that they will gradually learn the shared rituals of the group.... "

"In [cults], there is deliberate deception about what the group is and what some of the rituals might be, and primarily, there is deception about what the ultimate goal will be for a member, what will ultimately be demanded and expected, and what the damages resulting from some of the practices might be. A secret handshake is not equivalent to mind control."

from Steve Eichel Web site

Notice here how this big renowned professor at Jesuit Seattle University, Richard Delgado makes the distinction that jesuits are not a cult.

"In 'Religious Totalism: Gentle and Ungentle Persuasion under the First Amendment' (Southern California Law Review, November 1977) Richard Delgado argues that it is possible 10 draw a line between the cults and other acceptable forms of recruitment and proselytizing. 'The first is that religious cults expose their indoctrinates to a greater variety of classic mind-control techniques than other groups do, and apply these with greater intensity. Jesuit and other training institutions may isolate the seminarian from the rest of the world at various stages of the training period but the training does not involve physiological depletion nor does the order deceive the candidate concerning the duties required of members... the second answer concerns the end-state, or result, of religious mind control .... The legislative and judicial findings, first-person accounts by ex-cult members, case studies by psychiatrists and psychologists dispel any possibility of equating the effects of cult brain-washing with those of other groups and institutions. Television commercials may induce ennui and torpor but they rarely cause mental breakdowns; Jesuit training rarely results in broken bones, scabies or suicide.'
(Apparently this website was shut down sometime in the last 11 years. If you're interested, you can probably find it at

Amazing that out of every group on earth he decides to vindicate the Jesuits! And this above writing is widely circulated by these "anti-cult" groups.


Date of Message: | Nov 19, 2008