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Addition to Salvation testimony
I was born again when I got saved. I was very supernaturally lead through a sinners prayer and I invited Jesus into my heart and I felt Him mightily enter into my heart. briefly on how i was lead through the sinners prayer:
I had been reading the Bible about 8-10 hours a day for about three days and God talked to me through the Scripture that's says, "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." rev 3:20
I began weeping telling the Lord that I want that more than anything (and I wasn't a weeper). the next morning I snapped out of sleep very early in the morning and I felt the Lord all around me like a cloud. It was incredible. I knew He wanted me to turn on the TV, when I did I began changing the channels and I stopped on a channel that had a mans face taking up the whole screen. the first words out of his mouth was, "if you haven't accepted the Lord as your Savior I want you to say this prayer after me...." He lead me through the sinners prayer and my soul got saved very powerfully. I was screaming out to God to have mercy on my condemned soul "I'm a sinner!" I felt the blood of the lord jesus wash me from my sins. I was instantly healed of horrible oppression, depression and horrible anxiety.
I opened the door of my heart and felt Jesus come in and the demons flea. and after satan was there and so was the Lord. The devil told me he was going to kill me and I answered, "At least I'm going to heaven" I felt his insane wrath boil over and he fled and the Lord laughed.
and a lot more stuff happened during those few days. believe it or not it happened. May God strike me dead if I'm lying. I was a child of God born again. It was wonderful. and it still is because i see the lord is using me in spite of my own self. iv' e been through a lot since iv' e been saved. a lot of trials and tribulations. But I pray God has mercy on me because Iv' e been squeezed to death by the Lord and it's all very fearful.
here's a message I did just a few days ago. there will be more to come.
Fear God and Keep His Commandments
-Thomas
"Predestination"
"I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings." Jeremiah 23:21, 22
The biggest refutation of "Eternal Security" is that if "Eternal Security" is true, you will no longer need to FEAR God which is "Wisdom" and is an actual attribute of God (Isaiah 11). God specifies our need to fear Him all through the whole entire Bible. And Wisdom, God says, is "the principal thing." (Proverbs 4:7)
I more than anyone I know would love to say "I'm predestinated and there's NO WAY I could fall away, because when i was born again i was sealed with God's Holy Spirit and I'm the elect and was foreordained and nothing can pluck me out of God's hand and He who begun a work in my will finish it as the Bible says, 'He is the author and finisher' of our faith..." and so on and so on.
I would love for this to be true. But it's not. The Scriptures that are used are true, IN CONTEXT WITH THE WHOLE WORD OF GOD.
But let's make sure we understand the key words and what it says in the Greek. These definitions are from the Strong's concordance.
"Sealed" 4972. sphragizo sfrag-id'-zo from 4973; to stamp (with a signet or private mark) for security or preservation (literally or figuratively); by implication, to keep secret, to attest:--(set a, set to) seal up, stop.
"Predestinated" 4309. proorizo pro-or-id'-zo from 4253 and 3724; to limit in advance, i.e. (figuratively) predetermine:--determine before, ordain, predestinate. Four usages in the whole Bible.
"Elect" or "Chosen" (same exact Greek word) 1588. eklektos ek-lek-tos' from 1586; select; by implication, favorite:--chosen, elect.
As you can see, these words when closely examined, show that it is possible for one to be saved and then lose their salvation. But when we read the rest of the Bible it proves without any shadow of a doubt that one can fall away from God, into sin and ultimately wind up in Hell.
One definition of "Sealed" means "attest". "predestined" simply means "foreknowledge" and "Elect" means "Chosen" The "Elect" or "Chosen" are the people of God who the Apostles speak to in their Epistles. The Apostles warn these same "Elect" and "Chosen" that they need to "Strive, Press On, run the race with patience, Endure, Follow the Lord, Walk in the ways of the Lord, Grow in Grace, Put on the Whole Armor of God, seek God, Pray unceasingly, Pray Alway, Watch, fast, etc etc.
And these same "Predestinated" ones are warned specifically about falling away in these verses:
Hebrews 10: 26-31 " For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
"These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
1 Peter 4:17, 18 "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"
"And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"
1 Corinthians 10
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
I could list many more verses proving my point but I believe these verses to be incredibly more clear than this teaching of "predestination" and "eternal security"